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An Alternative to The Dani Radius
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Peter and Gloria



Joined: 06 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Jul 11, 2009 1:42 am    Post subject: An Alternative to The Dani Radius Reply with quote

On the long drive to and from Thompson, Tim and I had lots of time to discuss stuff.
I would like to suggest an alternative to the Dani Radius that might be a better way to compare all geocachers regardless of where they live - city or country.

Let's call it the "First Five Pages" or "FFP". When you do a search based on your home coordinates, how many geocaches on the first five pages (5 x 20 = 100 geocaches) have you already found (or do you own).
Our FFP number is 90 out of a 100 or 90%. The 100th cache is 10 km or 6.2 miles from home.
Our Dani Radius has only 20 caches in it. One unfound cache and 1 Sept. event.

If we lived downtown, say in our The Forks cache, our FFP would actually be better at 95%. The 100th cache is much closer at 3.3 km or 2.1 mi miles from The Forks.
The Dani Radius from The Forks has 180 caches in it. Seven unfound caches.

What do you think about FFP?
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glacier_ice



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PostPosted: Jul 11, 2009 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL, I think it'll still be called the Dani Radius. hehe
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Wagonmaker



Joined: 20 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Jul 11, 2009 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting idea.
I have found 84 out of 100 caches, so I'm at 84%.
It is a good equalizer for all cachers regardless of their locality.
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ertyu



Joined: 25 Apr 2005
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Location: Winnipeg

PostPosted: Jul 13, 2009 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sitting at 98% as of today. 1 cache is on my refuse to find list and the other I was unable to go after due to muggles when I last tried it. My radius is 4km large. The alternate Dani radius I usually use is how many caches are within my 80km radius. This has been under 100 for quite a long time now, although increasing as of late, it is currently at 95 including various events and disabled caches.
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junglehair



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Location: Winnipeg

PostPosted: Jul 13, 2009 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My FFP is 88/100 caches and extends only 2 miles. I had my Dani-Radius cleared in the winter, but there has been 40 new caches placed in my DR since March and I still need to find 27 of those. There are a total of 185 caches in my Dani-Radius.
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ohmic



Joined: 07 Nov 2006
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Location: Winnipeg

PostPosted: Jul 13, 2009 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a fun exercise!
My FFP is 98 caches found out of 100 or 98% and my FFP Radius is 3.3km.
I guess I pretty much do live at the Forks! Smile
My DR is currently standing at 4.
And my 80K is ... 137!
I guess I have some caching up to do! Very Happy
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glacier_ice



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PostPosted: Jul 14, 2009 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sitting at 83/100 for 83%.

My Dani Radius is sitting about 27 unfound caches out of about 144 total. This gives me an 81% on my DR.
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dani_carriere



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PostPosted: Jul 14, 2009 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the idea of using both. FFP is more accurate regardless of where you live, and the Dani Radius of 5kms gives you a nice area to clean up on quick caching days.

My FFP is 95/100 at 3.8kms or 95%
My Dani Radius has 10 caches left out of 149 caches or a find rate of 93%

Oh, and in addition to the FFP and the Dani Radius (5km) terms, I'd like to add the Jacques Radius of 80kms.

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ohmic



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PostPosted: Jul 14, 2009 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it's not really the Jacques Radius but more the default radius fo GC.com...
Which is somethig I would like to see extended...
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Peter and Gloria



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PostPosted: Jul 14, 2009 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just add &dist=100 to the default search to change it from 50 miles to 100 miles. Then bookmark the page. I use http://www.geocachingadmin.com/ as my home page so it's easy to have lots of quickly accessible bookmarks.

My DR is 1 (just GeoVenture in Aug), FFP is 91% & JR80km is 113.
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dani_carriere



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PostPosted: Jul 14, 2009 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol ... oh man! ... my JR80kms is 681. I better get out caching too.
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ertyu



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PostPosted: Jul 22, 2009 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just tried a new calculation. Within my 80km radius I have a cache density of approximately 1 unfound cache in 275 square kilometers. That seems more logical to demonstrate the difficulty in clearly that out. My FFP density is 1 in 24 km^2 and Dani density is 1 in 39 km^2.
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Dragonfreys



Joined: 12 Feb 2006
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Location: Manitoba-Westman

PostPosted: Jul 30, 2009 8:20 pm    Post subject: Rural setting Reply with quote

Here's a few of our rural numbers for comparison. Our FFP is 79/100 with more owned than found and the radius is 78.1 km. So this is pretty much the same as the 80 km radius. Note this includes about 10 caches put out in Shoal Lake over the winter and mostly missing now but not yet archived.

Dani radius is 16/16 with 6 caches found and 10 owned.

We have been working from two points of origins lately though. Home renovation is sure a drain on geocaching time.
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Peter and Gloria



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PostPosted: Oct 03, 2009 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On July 14
Peter and Gloria wrote:


My DR is 1 (just GeoVenture in Aug), FFP is 91% & JR80km is 113.


Today the number of caches in Manitoba that we have not found just hit 1001. It has never been that high. Thanks to everyone who has been hiding caches.

Our DR is still very low: 3
FFP is pretty good at 95% (9.7 km or 6 miles)
JR80km is 163

160km is 380 so that means 621 are over 100 miles away.
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MHz



Joined: 20 Apr 2005
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Location: Morris

PostPosted: Oct 05, 2009 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno about my FFP as I don't use my home corrds but set mine at St. Agathe area to get more Wpg caches and less US caches. That being said, I've got 95 caches found and 4 I own in the first 5 pages so I guess my FFP is 99%. The one I haven't gotten is in Morris and it's just a matter of time as I'm waiting to do it with GFM.

My furtherest cache found in the FFP is 26.7 km in Laberriere Park. I think the queen and Rambin' Rose for hiding so many close to home to boost my FFP number!

When I get a chance I'll swap to my real home coords and run it again.

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